WELCOME I do not usually give out my e-mail address as I am sick of all the ads which are either insulting or pornographic - so my webmaster and I are trying out these methods to allow people to communicate and or ask questions. We (well actually, Chuck, at GetSirius,) worked out a system that notifies me when you leave a comment and I will answer on this board. Soon we will alter this board so you can leave your web or blog address. For now, leave your web address as your name or at the end of your message. Thank You.
(Submitted March 22, 2005 07:58:39 by Green Consciousness)
I would like more information on the Bambi fight in the Madison area. I think this is horrible and after just finding your site I feel we have many beliefs in common. Will there be a protest on the 22nd?
(Submitted April 15, 2005 14:02:38 by Rebecca)
I wrote more on this here: http://www.madison.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=2272 Here is a sample: The only way to bring some sanity to the DNR is to require that Ĺ of all staff positions be filled by non-hunter users of the natural resources Do you remember how the DNR justified the Stoughton fish warden's clubbing a cat to death because he said it bit him? The Madison Judge said no penalty because the DNR was exempt from the cruelty laws. Their pseudo - science is not reality based, only hunter based - their CWD killing cure was ridiculous when CWD is in the ground and on the game farms (see CAID's website for real science). DNR tolerance for confined game farms brought the disease into Wisconsin. I am not sure but I think to avoid the issue the DNR gave that Hot Potato to the agriculture dept as if the game farms were not a threat to the natural resources and unrelated to CWD (how scientific of them). But I do know they refuse to test Birth Control to reduce the herd - I do know the DNR allows hunting with dogs - bear baiting - training dogs on baby bears in cages, with the bears sent to slaughterhouses when the dogs are through with them. The focus of our attention should be on challenging the STAFF make-up and Board composition of the DNR - insisting that non hunters have equal representation and non hunter programs receive equal funding. We should demand an affirmative action program at the DNR until the staff at that agency reflects the ratio of hunter to non hunter as it exists in the general population of Wisconsin. In that way, non hunters may once again be able to use the parks, the wild areas and the natural resources in Wisconsin. I think the cat people and the Bambi people ought to join together to do something if they try to take the fawn - the DNR is our common problem. I am urging the www.dontshootthecat.com people to organize for Bambi using the newsletter they have to alert their members and the addresses on their petition. You could go to their site - click on the contact us button and tell them you agree with me and think that we should support all the animal defenders who suffer because of the DNR policies and procedures. Put your name on their mailing list. I will leave up date messages on my blog also. And by the way THANK YOU for your support. The Dodgeville cop who beat me up, Officer Gratz, is being investigated for giving porn to the high school kids he coaches. It was on TV last night. Channel 3000, the story and his picture is on their web site.
(Submitted April 15, 2005 15:03:51 by Greenconsciousness)
All of us need to hear the story from Ilene Smith herself. This is a hunting family. They farm for a living. They jumped through all the hoops but the DNR killers cannot stand to see even one fawn treated as a beloved friend. If they allow it maybe a LOT of people will befriend the deer and that is their worst fear. It may lead to democracy. Here is the actual sequence of events: The Smith's sued for an Injunction preventing the DNR from taking Bambi when the DNR refused to allow them to keep the deer despite their DNR approved pen and application for a game farm permit. The matter is before Judge Albert in a Dane County Court. The DNR filed a Motion to Dismiss the Request for an Injunction with a brief in opposition. The Smiths filed a reply brief in support of their Request for an injunction. Then there was a Hearing on the matter of whether the request for an injunction should be dismissed. At that hearing, Judge Albert asked both parties to submit additional briefs on the question of whether the doctrine of equitable estoppel applied to the question of whether the request for an injunction should be dismissed. Equitable Estoppel is The doctrine by which a person may be precluded by act, silence, or conduct from asserting a right which he otherwise may have had. The Smiths have submitted their brief on the question of equitable estoppel and the DNR must submit their reply brief by April 22, 2005. Then the first decision the Court will make is whether the Smiths even have a right to be heard. These are a small group of people who did everything the DNR told them to do: Ilene Smith in Columbus, and Atty Gary Schmaus, Dale Schneider the VET, Scott Fitzgerald 1-888-291-3489 representative in support, Steve Fotti 1 608 266 2401 representative in support and Mary Bell, a wildlife rehabilitator.
(Submitted May 12, 2005 13:24:07 by GREENCONSCIOUSNESS)
Virgina Rose Please contact me at 608 757**** I have info on the Rock county INhumane Society.This deals with abuse and neglect on their behalf' Spending money on drinking outside of rock county I would like to see the removal of Chris Konetski and Jim Hurley. My sisters cats were murdered in cold blood by these SLEEP WALKERS in 2001 Konetski had all 29 killed to make a example of my family. Some cats had FIV but they did not have the full blown disease. They did not need to die at the hands of these SLEEP WALKERS. Call I have more info thanks Jeannine
(Submitted May 14, 2005 16:22:11 by Jeannine )
Dear Jeannine: I do not want more info on the personalities at the Humane Society but I would like to know more about your story Jeannine. I want to use this comment board as a vehicle for public, not private, discussion. So I hope you, Jeannine see this and write again, giving the date and name of any newspapers that did stories about the cat seizure situation. I would want to be able to read those newspaper accounts and put them on my website along with your comments. The activity I want to be involved in, beside my own lawsuit against Iowa County, is not so much attacking the morally bankrupt Rock County Humane Society but rather changing the municipal laws which limit the number of cats which individuals may shelter. I would substitute laws regulating the conditions of care that must be provided to sheltered animals. One of the things that turned me against the Rock Co Humane Society is that they support all this stupid legislation which is basically directed at their competition rescuers and NOT at the stated problem, unwanted anumals. The RCHS also has a lousy track record of finding owners, reuniting families. They require daily visits if your cat is lost. I believe they make the owner pay to retrieve their animal. Cats are not dogs. The number of dogs that can be kept in a private residence should be limited because when dogs are in a pack they can be more dangerous than usual. All regulation should stem from the interests of society and the special needs of the animal to be regulated, not rubber stamped on different species. What needs to be regulated for the cats is the conditions under which an animal may be kept. Animal waste is a problem. Litter boxes must be large enough and clean - no feces uncovered in the yard. All animals must be made to be infertile and a vet must so certify. No animals may be sold for profit. No animals to be kept in cages. These are regulations I could accept especially if there was a fund established to help the poor pay an animalís medical expenses from the license fees. Basically, I want the city to allow people to keep as many cats as they can in a cageless, clean environment with the funds available for medical care if the animal becomes sick. Call it fostering, call it rescue, but the amount of animals should be limited only by your ability to care for them. No one should be allowed to keep animals they do not have neutered by a vet, not even one. I do not want to see animals kept in cages in private homes any more than I like it at the Humane Society. And I would not permit any breeding of animals or any sale of animals. That is effective regulation for cat population control. This is what we need to protect animal rescuers, animal centered regulation. The Human Society is a lost cause. I would not waste any more time on them except I have stoped sending them money. We need an animal rights/rescuers rights Legal Defense Team. I hope you are all clipping newspapers articles. I remember the woman up north whose house was not clean enough to suit authorities so they impounded all her animals. The animals were well fed and kept clean but they took them anyway. She said how she kept her house was no oneís business but hers. Since the animals were well cared for, I agree. I think animal rescuers who have been harmed by the police and government regulation need to tell their stories to one another. We need to form a protective association connected by e-mail groups. I would like this comment page to be a forum for this. There is another place to talk about cat action in a Wisconsin forum www.dontshootthecat.com I would like Jeanne to write her story here in this guest book, or just write a little and refer us to the newspaper stories. I encourage others who have been victimized or whose animals have been victimized by the Wisconsin legal system to do the same. Write here. Write only what you can factually defend. We are all liable for what we put in print. Just as I am liable for what I say, other people who write here are liable for what they say. A provable Truth is the only defense. You can write about your opinions or your suggestions, just clearly label them as such.
hi! Its my response back to what went down in 2001 in February. If you want copies of the news print I can send them to you. You should have my number. What I printed above can be proven I am not worried about the consequences of my facts. I am not trying to bankrupt the humane society. I only want the truth to finally come out. Our situation wos totally blown out of contexts. The willard ave cats did not need to die. I have pictures as well we got back from code We never got a chance to tell our facts . Its always code police and humane society. Those 29 cats and 10 kittens did not need to die. Our neighbors did not call on us it was charter code told my brother. We let our sisters cats over because she was helping us care for our seriously ill brother and autistic sister. We did not have cat poop all over the house as was written in the newspapers as reported. Yeah we did in the back bedroom Im not denying that. The officer that came up here told my brother to take the cats back to my sisters no citations issued. But first shift sergeant throw a fit and had all the cats but my brothers cat 2 dogs and parakeet removed to the shelter. this took place after 5pm on second shift. Why was the first shift sergeant there at 5pm when he gets done at 3pm. He claims he knows us and could make the sitution better for us. WRONG HE ONLY WANTED TO MAKE THE SITUTION WORSE HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CATS WERE TAKEN AND NEVER RETURNED THE ULTIMATE PRICE THE CATS DEATH) This sergeant should never have been there in the first. Code comnened our home and it was torn down July 18 2001. Our home was fixable I last year went with several people and told our side to city councel. WE FOUND SOME WHO COULD FIX OUR HOME UNDER THE 50% so called value. It was denied and torn down. I had arrangements made with a lady from wisconsin funding to help us get refinanced to fix the home in a couple of years in 2000. She helped me get my credit back on track We got a loan from Bank One for 65,000.00 We made our payments with no problem until my brother got ill in October he spent 17 days fighting for his life. March 2001 we finally found out he had rheumantic fever from strip throat. About the cats yes some had fiv but alot was omitted in our two and a half trial. My brother who worked at the shelter and I were charged with harboring more then 2 dogs and cats. Also mistreating 29 cats and 10 kittens. The vets report says they had fleas earmites and upper respiratory underweight. When our trial came down the vet was to busy to be there. He knew his statements could be asked by us He was the vet that actually treated several of my sisters cats The humane society none of the cats never received any vet care in truth we already had 7 males neutered. Paperwork would show that. Other details did the shelter say that they left the cats in cages in the pouring rain February 8 2001. Did you know the shelter knew the cats were at our house? did you know the offericer that came up here said the cats did not look abuse or neglected to him and yes he was going to be a witness in our trial. Oh ya we were not read any rights or finger printed Its like being areested but not really arrested. To this day I still figure out what that means. Did you know 10 kittens were with one mother. What kind of chance of survival did the 2 days have against the 2 week olds. Did you know that James had a hard time going to the bathroom and I had a hard time getting him in. THe receiption told me the vet needs the monet up front or he wont treat the cat I told her I have 100.00 now and could get the rest next week pay day She told me I could bring the cat in to euthanized since I didnt have the money I asked her what kind of place are they running I thought they were suppose to help animals not kill them I was mad but they called me back half later and did surgery on James. He was better and was doing good until he was killed on march 3 2001 by the shelter. there is so much more going on here Those cats had names not numbers KITT CASPER MIDNIGHT PSALMS WARRIOR MAYA APOLLO FRISKY TOPAZ JAMES HERCULES SIXXPAC NEON BRONCO EXPLORER REDBAREN DODGE SHADOW GALAXY ISIS PEPSI NOAH MOSES PANDORA PANTHER TAURUS GIZMO BOOTS NASH Midnight was 17 years old when she died. It took us a long time to get these cats off the street Several cats were hit by cars One cat had his entire white chest removed from the impact. GREEN EYES who was midnights mother died of a bullet wound. It was in her for a long time no one could get near her She came up to us when she was weak. The vet tried to save her but it was to late. GREEN EYES was a preety maltese cat. We did ask for spaying and neutrating assistence for my sisters cats. She was turned down. There is still so much more to say. The shelter wanted over 6,500.00 for those cats the da just charged us for unsanitary condidtions. A 100.00 fine plus court costs. Botten line is the shelter is after money. The animals are tokens. I really dont believe every shelter is like that and not everyone that works at the shelter is bad. Yeah we did have more cats then we should of at that time and yes we needed work on the house but I had plans made and we needed our sisters help at that time. Yes you should still donate the animals at the shelter need help they never asked to be there. Help find them homes not just the cats but the dogs as well. ALso did you know 4 cats hid and are still alive today 4 years later. The second cats were given to my sister by her boyfriend. The guy he used to work for shoots cats Yes these cats have escapped death several times. God works in mysteries ways. So much more to say thanks for giving me a chance to some things out. By the way the sargeant that came up in 2001 on second shift demoted himself or was he demoted. They wont say Thanks call if you want the clippings jeannine
(Submitted May 16, 2005 18:01:25 by jeannine)
Jeannine I cried when I read you story. If there were real Humane Societies they would have helped you not made things worse. Did you say four cats survived the Rock Co Extermination of all 30 cats? Did you get them back? No, I will never give the Rock County or any Humane Society my money again - they love money too much! I give to the no kill shelter in Whitewater called Touched by a Paw - the link to them is on my social change moon. Find one of those green boxes at the bottom of any of my web pages and click on the Social Change Moon - in the second column you will see the link - click on Touched By A Paw. When the goons come for our animals we should have the option of placing them at a no kill shelter until they can be adopted out to our friends and relatives. We need to organize to beat this filthy system made up of men and cops who like to kill cats. Who think it is their god given right to kill cats. I thought I had your phone number in a second place on these pages but I cannot find it now. Please leave it here one more time and I will record it privately and erase it again.
(Submitted May 17, 2005 08:47:37 by GreenConsciousness)
hi! My phone is 757**** The four cats hid behind the stove and were never taken all the ones the shelter took were murdered. These four are living today. CELICA SPOT ANGEL PHANTASM Spot does have fiv but he is doing great. Cats with fiv should have exrta vitamins which we have been giving them nutracal suppliments. We never knew a lot of the cats had fiv but James in 2000 when the vet did surgery.Hetold us he could live a day a week month a year 5 years or even 8 years. He never told us about any thing else to help him. We found out about nutracal from preferred pets. The bottem line is cats can live a good life even with a illness. My brothers cat CY died last year he was almost 13 years old. He was fiv possitive his two brothers were killed by the shelter. both also had fiv. CASPER and KITT. THey and CY were neutered. Do keep fighting for the cats and dogs every animal needs people for them. I agree with you we need to get a plan in order to protect the lives of animals taken by the shelter. I understood angels wish wanted some of the friendly cats we had. The shelter refused them and killed them all. How are all of your cats doing now? Thanks for allowing me a chance to get some info out. ASk the lady that had her cats taken if charter or power and light were up there. The people that turn people in are not usually the neighbors but repair men looking for something to complain about. thanks Jeannine
(Submitted May 17, 2005 11:46:34 by jeannine)
Jeanine - I have recorded your info and I am going to contact that other woman when I have time. In the Fall I want to appear at a city council meeting on the matter of stupid animal regulations that do not solve the problem of nuisance, unwanted cats. I hope you and she will attend to tell your stories. As you remember more details please feel free to come back here and write them down
(Submitted May 20, 2005 14:16:43 by GreenConsciousness)
hi! I have been busy lately but wanted to update you on more details. Talking to the city council on the subject of what happened to the cats would be a waste of time. We tried to tell them about our home not needed to be torn down. We had someone willing to fix it under the 50% savable price. Our home was stolen June 18th not July 18th as I wrote earlier. I was in a hurry an never checked my errors. They did not care and will not care over the animal issues. Our present goverment is only into money issues. Have you watched the council meetings on Monday nights? You have 3 minutes to give your speech any later they shut your mike down. Talk with Andreah briarmoon or Richard Frank they get stopped a lot. They are known by city officials code department and council as trouble makers. Andreah was fined over tree hundred dollars in fines. The city wanted thousands in fines from her to prove a point YOU MISS WITH THE CITY OF JANESVILLE WE WILL GET YOU! I will still go up when you want me to go. We are currently working on getting info out on the Rock County Humane Society abuse and neglict of animals left in their care. Jim drowned cats at the age of 22. If they did not die he would step on their skull. he is as bad as Barry Herbick in 1997. Should he be allowed to work there? Chris used a sharp stick to hold a cat in place she was going to put to sleep. The cat moved and was stabbed. My brother and another coworker seen her. A dog was left to face his fear of thunderstorms. He died as a result no meds given or help for aniexty. A duck was injured by a dog. The duck was never treated he was left out in sub tempts. The results were death. He was found frozen to death in a cage outside no food or water. A order by Jim if any staff brings him in they will lose their jobs. My brother has tried different places to get the message out. He has talked to the police and wrote a letter to the DAs office but nothing is being done. He e mailed peta and they want all the details. He is sending a letter to them. Our side never got said. We are now ready and willing to fight back. i will close for now. thanks for your time Jeannine
(Submitted August 4, 2005 15:02:03 by Jeannine Zillmer)
a way to get word out about changes for a better humane society is thru getting a video tape started like we did for card. our stories are told on jvl tv channel 12 on thursdays. at 11am 4pm 9pm and 1am fri am at 6am. our topic is conmandations and we have been airing for 2 months. we can get the news out to anyone who listens to the tv station card was started by andreah briarmoon.If your interested in an getting the word out we can work out details andreah will show the direction. the truth needs to be told and word of mouth is a good way to tell it. please give me a call you have my number. thank jeannine
(Submitted February 21, 2006 16:06:25 by jeannine zillmer)
I would like to comment on a few of the horrors you went through and on the fence. Since hopefully society is slowly gaining a no kill attitude towards the animals through the use of tnr, adoption and rescue, and so on, I think that the police and towns need to lay off on the harrassment of people trying to save the animals. Ordinances are so restrictive that if one has more than the allowable number of animals, even if they are only holding them until adopted, they get grief for it through repeated police visits, complaining neighbors, and fines. I think that those who do care about the animals should work towards educating the public more to the benefits of tnr and adoption by posters, educational pamplets, etc. I am sure there must be enough animals lovers that one person wouldn't have to go broke printing up several flyers and putting them where people can pick them up, or informational posters and so on. If all the animal lovers put out an effort to spread the word it might work, also groups attending meetings and lobbying their gov officials to drop the harrassment and start using some common sense. Could be wishful thinking but it might work. I know what hell you went through, I have been there myself. Not quite to the same extreme but years and years of murdered cats and harrassment. About the fence..I have a dog kennel that we put off of our (once screened) fenced porch. We had to put fence around the porch because the cats tore the screen regular green garden fence works great. We covered the dog kennel top with the same fencing and the put cement blocks around the base to prevent slipping underneath. It was cheap and has given the cats fresh air and sunshine without escapes for many years. I hope this sends since I didn't put any html on it.
(Submitted April 9, 2006 02:50:52 by Katz)
Dear Katz Thank you for sharing - I just got your message because it did not come to my mailbox for some reason - are you in Janesville or some other city?
(Submitted April 20, 2006 07:15:45 by Greenconsciousness)
Dear Greenconsciousness! When I decided to trace my genealogy and begin looking for family members, in particular my ancestors, I didn't think that one late night I might start looking up old friends. But that's how I ended up here, in your wild maze of fecund and Ariadnaesque circuitry. I'm astonished how easy it was to find another person, someone from decades ago. No I'm astonished at the affect this find is having on my psyche as I update a memory here. I don't know how much we shook up reality on 17th street (I think it was 17th street), but I do remember Groovy and Dylan were there, as they were there as we climbed down the fire escape in Minneapolis. I see you are going through quite an ordeal, but if you want to get in touch, send me an email. I would find such a note amazing as well. Linda
(Submitted April 25, 2006 18:44:58 by linda )
Hi Linda - I vaguly remember the things you allude to = feel free to write about them here in greater detail. Sounds like we had fun - really write about them. I did a radio show about our abortions. Do you have a post office box? I will send you a copy if you send your address to my webmaster - he will forward it to me. I wrote about the ordeal in summary as follows. I was in a rage because the questioner tried to make me feel guilty about my record I hate my loss of status and overreact emotionally . So I cherish a summary that is short and gets the main points instead of all the details. Here it is. My pervert neighbor, Ken and Helen Dombeck, and their cop friends waged a two year campaign of terror against me including killing my animals, paintballing my house, trying to run me down with their car, and having Officer Gratz beat me up. Officer Gratz was eventually busted for giving porn to the high school kids. The cops helped them lie to get a harassment order against me keeping me from going into their yard to get my cats when they lured them in there. Then they tortured and killed them. After they killed three cats and tried to run me down, I went into their yard when a cat was missing. A stupid judge had granted that harassment order based on lies AFTER he KNEW that Ken had been charged with killing my cats. Of course from that day on the legal system helped that monster torture me. I was made into the criminal while Ken and his cop friends laughed. Ken and Helen phoned in false complaints, their friend and protector, Chief Cahoon, would have me arrested, thrown in the drunk tank all day, shackled at the wrist and ankles, dragged past the clerks and judge I worked with (the case was heard by the Richland center NOT the Iowa county judge) to be humiliated and laughed at. Then those false charges would be dropped, never prosecuted. Try to practice law as a professional after that happens three or four times. It was a deliberate campaign to destroy me. And a bunch of corrupt cops helped the Dombecks do it. At the same time GALs I had beaten in Court and other attys I had defeated encouraged disgruntled clients to make OLR complaints. So I was fighting for my life in two areas and lost. I developed PTSD. You think I am ashamed of this? Or have to run and hide from all the times you and you piece of crap friends have brought this up in this forum? I am ashamed of nothing asshole. Now go play with yourself AGAIN. PS And why am I still suspended when they only gave me a six month suspension? Because they brought every piece of crap BS charge possible and lost on most all of them - but they succeeded in some (which they should have lost but I was too tired and broke to appeal). Then, when they win on anything ,and the arbitrator makes sure OLR wins on some tiny thing, - OLR is entitled to the cost of the ENTIRE prosecution including all the issues they lost on. That is justice in Freedom Land. Do you think I am ever going to pay so I can have status and honor in Freedom Land? So I can be like them and Thantos?
(Submitted April 25, 2006 20:09:03 by Greenconsciousness)
PS you can leave comments on the blog. See the green box below - every title is a place on my website Click on the words the Spiraling Cycle and you will be at my spiritual Home. Click on Consciousness to find the blog.
(Submitted April 25, 2006 20:12:59 by Greenconsciousness)
Aha! So it is you, Virginia. One can never be certain of anything, which you probably know-- and not just from viewing Copenhagen. I read through your summary and spent more time with your site here. I'm sorry to learn of the nightmarish brutality you experienced. There's a lot of forced repression and legalized sadism going on all over. We are deep into a totalitarian regime-- American style--in the guise of national security. Voices of difference such as yours about animal safety are tolerated at best and silenced if they grow too loud. You really developed this site. The links go on and on. In any case, we certainly have a long lifeline. We both went back to school for advanced degrees. While you were interviewed on the radio, I produced a radio show back in the 80s for an NPR affiliate, and while you have documented something of value here, I've made more than one documentary. Interesting to catch up in this way. It really does feed the psyche. I'd love to reconnect and see where this leads. However, for my own privacy issues, I can do so again only through email, as I feel I'm talking loudly on a public street corner here. I left my email address for you. If email doesn't work for you, that's okay too. It's been a marvelous peek and I'm satisfied with waving you a friendly hello as I pass through your neighborhood. Linda
(Submitted April 29, 2006 04:47:15 by linda )
If email doesn't work for you, that's okay too. It's been a marvelous peek and I'm satisfied with waving you a friendly hello as I pass through your neighborhood. The email did not work, again - I think Chuck may have disabled it because of the spam bots. I have not got anyone's email off this thread. OK, that's a sign. If we are ships in the night at least we have good lights this time. I am waving back and saying; get a copy of LOBA by Diane di Prima to add to your book of incantations....you must special order it - just type in her name in your broswer.....I am waving and sliping back into the fog.....
(Submitted April 29, 2006 08:11:19 by Greenconsciousness)
my husband made me take two beautiful black babies Puff and Woody to the vet to be killed now he is wanting me to kill the rest I hate him, he is a stranger to me now.
(Submitted June 26, 2006 20:13:40 by mommy)
mommy if you are in Wisconsin I suggest you contact this atty and get a divorce Megan A. Senatori DeWitt Ross & Stevens S.C. Capitol Square Office Two East Mifflin Street, Suite 600 Madison, WI 53703-2865 Direct Dial 608-252-9395 Email email@example.com In any case e-mail her and ask her what happen to this organization - it used to be on the web but now it is gone. Wisconsin United for Furry Friends If you are just suspicious or if someone you live with has been threatening or actually hurting your animals you can get help here. Click on this link. They will shelter the animals until you can move away from the danger. This link is for Wisc. residents but the Latham link in this list will point out of state residents to similar programs in other states.
(Submitted June 26, 2006 21:00:00 by Greenconsciousness)
Here it is: http://www.wuffinfo.org/
(Submitted June 26, 2006 21:02:41 by Greenconsciousness)
mommy you already took two lives for nothing - if you stay with this guy - why are you any better than he is - because you play victim? No - if you stay for economic reasons with an abuser than you are an abuser. So many people say I hate George bush but I like Laura. I don't get it (now understand I don't HATE either although I do not support his DOMESTIC policies) My point is - she is his spoke person, supporting him, helping him and profiting from her association with him. They are a unit and both are equally responsible for what happens in and from the marriage. YOU, mommy, are blaming HIM and yet YOU were the one who did the killing. If he tells you to do other evil are you going to go along? Where will you draw the line? If he beats your children will you stay and watch them crippled emotionally? Whether the seed of his ugliness is multiplied or is stopped is your responsibility. Either be his partner or get out. You are responsible for your own actions so stop blaming him and denying your own responsibility. Get away from him and live what you say are your beliefs and values. If you need help start asking for it.
(Submitted June 27, 2006 12:21:02 by Greenconsciousness)
for those of you who keep sending unwanted spam to this site - all of it goes to firstname.lastname@example.org and my senator and BTW all of you reading these comments should forward the spam you get to that address as they sue the businesses that send spam
(Submitted July 2, 2006 16:52:18 by Greenconsciousness)
Helo, Iam sorry that you and your prescious kitties have gone through so much traumatization at the hand of neighbors and the legal system. I too had problems on several occasions with neighbors and animal control. The limit here in Balto, city is two, but wouldnt ya know my heart melted for feral and abandoned street cats? and I ende up with more of them then Ishould've (atleast according to the city gov) Fortunately I was able to hide my furry friends at my dad's house and tell the compliance officer I didnt have more then two.My cats are of the type that would be put down in the shelter so I did what I had to do. I think that it's ashame that pet lovers are criminalized soly because of there love for pets and that people like us who do even though we 're poor and dont have alot of money must lie and hide our pets because the government agencies have all the laws sewn up on there side.You are right though people must stand up for them selves and their pets but how do you do that and protect your pets , you take a risk doing that and right now I'm not willing to. I hope you win your case and show these mofus just that intimidation won't be tolerated.
(Submitted September 24, 2006 21:56:14 by kim)
Dear Kim - thank you for writing . I wanted this comment section to be so I could hear from people such as yourself. But the spammers are sending over 100 spams a day and our legislators will not do a thing to stop them. I don't even read them anymore. So I asked Chuck the webmaster to stop this section of comments. I am forced to ask you and others like you to go to my blog (which I do not write on too much anymore) and leave your comments about cats and the system there. Leave your comments on the last entry and start with the words -" this is a comment from the cat page". Then I will take cat page comments and make a post from them and we can talk there. I think you were very smart to hide your cats as the system would crush you and kill your animals. Now is the time to stop cooperating with a corrupt and cruel system which is structured to hurt the poor and benefit the powerful. Blessings in Abundance to You.
(Submitted September 25, 2006 9:38:00 by Virginia)